What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby VasquezI » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:53 pm

In my opinion
your on the right path no one unless they have the money to back them up starts with perfect cattle get what you can affort and work your way up with genetics you have the fundementals so use them in selecting animals to produce your next set of show animals and keep improving its the name of the game well Good luck and dont let any haters get you down
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby S&WSigma40VEShooter » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:42 am

Iowa-angus wrote:i am talking about a realistic pasture cow.... and i was only talking about the heifer....



Still have alot to learn. The only reason you probably did win in the show as you pointed out earlier is because the others were more pee poor than yours and that is hard to believe.
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby S&WSigma40VEShooter » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:44 am

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Cowboy 2.0 wrote:Watch yourself on the implants. You can mess a calf up real fast with implants


ok... How often should i implant then? I don't want to mess them up....



Get you some better genetics and you wont have to implant. Most people I know would never buy an animal to eat (and that is what happens to steers after their show career) that have been implanted with hormones.
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby Cowboy 2.0 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:58 am

S&WSigma40VEShooter wrote:
Iowa-angus wrote:
Cowboy 2.0 wrote:Watch yourself on the implants. You can mess a calf up real fast with implants


ok... How often should i implant then? I don't want to mess them up....



Get you some better genetics and you wont have to implant. Most people I know would never buy an animal to eat (and that is what happens to steers after their show career) that have been implanted with hormones.


Yet they are used everyday in feedlots.
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby aussie_cowgirl » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:23 am

Cowboy 2.0 wrote:
S&WSigma40VEShooter wrote:

Get you some better genetics and you wont have to implant. Most people I know would never buy an animal to eat (and that is what happens to steers after their show career) that have been implanted with hormones.


Yet they are used everyday in feedlots.


I suppose it's the same for the US. We only used to implant the smaller animals. Animals that we were sure were going to make the supermarket weight requirement never got hormone implants. Having said that they all went on the truck together so it'd be roulette at the shops as to whether you got one or not :nod:
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby S&WSigma40VEShooter » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:25 am

Get you some better genetics and you wont have to implant. Most people I know would never buy an animal to eat (and that is what happens to steers after their show career) that have been implanted with hormones.[/quote]

Yet they are used everyday in feedlots.[/quote]


My customers buy my meat because of that fact. They wont buy from the stores because of what you are doing. PERIOD! Now the average consumer that buys store bought meat doesnt give a second thought about it but everyone that buys from me said you dont know whats in that store bought meat I want to buy it from you because its cheaper and there are no hormones or antibiotics used.
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby Cowboy 2.0 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:18 am

Well, isn't that dandy. I really had no care where my calves went after the show so I didn't pay much mind to it.
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby S&WSigma40VEShooter » Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:42 pm

Cowboy 2.0 wrote:Well, isn't that dandy. I really had no care where my calves went after the show so I didn't pay much mind to it.



I hear ya. Each operation is different. I just know that if I did that to my freezer beefs I would have no customers.
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:20 pm

Implants get a bad rap. Because of "perceived" issues, we don't implant, but everyone that does not implant is losing money.
It has been proven many times that there is more HORMONES in broccolli (sp?) than in implanted beef. There are several common "healthy" foods that contain more hormones.
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby Sean M » Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:00 am

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Implants get a bad rap. Because of "perceived" issues, we don't implant, but everyone that does not implant is losing money.
It has been proven many times that there is more HORMONES in broccolli (sp?) than in implanted beef. There are several common "healthy" foods that contain more hormones.


Soya has a huge hormone level. Far, far higher than beef treated with hormones. I can still understand why consumers, including myself, would be against it though. It does seem a little unnatural and I find the thought of eating hormone treated beef a little 'wrong'.
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Re: What do you think of my 09 show cattle?

Postby Jeanne - Simme Valley » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:11 am

Sean M wrote:
Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:Implants get a bad rap. Because of "perceived" issues, we don't implant, but everyone that does not implant is losing money.
It has been proven many times that there is more HORMONES in broccolli (sp?) than in implanted beef. There are several common "healthy" foods that contain more hormones.


Soya has a huge hormone level. Far, far higher than beef treated with hormones. I can still understand why consumers, including myself, would be against it though. It does seem a little unnatural and I find the thought of eating hormone treated beef a little 'wrong'.

But the implants are just putting "more" of what the animal is already producing in it's own body - and still not raising it to a level more than what you get in other "natural" foods. Like I said, we don't use them any more, but it's really a shame, because the industry is losing money by NOT using implants.
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