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MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:07 pm
by Hardin Farms
Anyone in the north MS area have any experience with red angus cattle going through sales? I have always sold black, but have recently tried to grow a more maternal/efficient herd and have begun making the switch to red angus. While i build my heard, ill be having to sell a few red steers until i can get my numbers to where i want them. In my area herefords get killed in the sale ring. Any idea how redA's do around our parts?

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:40 am
by OleScout
Red will cost you $0.10- 0.15 in NW MS.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:40 am
by Hardin Farms
OleScout wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:40 am
Red will cost you $0.10- 0.15 in NW MS.
Blows my mind. Same cow just red hide gets you docked. I was hoping the herefords were the only ones that got docked around here.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:40 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
Hardin Farms wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:40 am
OleScout wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:40 am
Red will cost you $0.10- 0.15 in NW MS.
Blows my mind. Same cow just red hide gets you docked. I was hoping the herefords were the only ones that got docked around here.
Your thinking is still correct. Build a nice herd of RA momma's and run a homo black bull over them so you'll get black haired calves. Take a few hit along the way, it'll be worth it in the end.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:54 pm
by kenny thomas
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:40 pm
Hardin Farms wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:40 am
OleScout wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:40 am
Red will cost you $0.10- 0.15 in NW MS.
Blows my mind. Same cow just red hide gets you docked. I was hoping the herefords were the only ones that got docked around here.
Your thinking is still correct. Build a nice herd of RA momma's and run a homo black bull over them so you'll get black haired calves. Take a few hit along the way, it'll be worth it in the end.
If you run a homo black bull on them why would you take a hit.
Oh but wait. Every breed advertises homo black except one. Guess which one? The one that was supposed to be black to begin with. But yes I agree a herd of red momma's and a homo black bull is a great idea.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:02 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
Well in my case I’m running a Red Angus bull over a mixed group of Red Angus cows and BA cows. I retain the RA heifers and take my hit on the RA steers.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:05 pm
by Silver
kenny thomas wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:54 pm

Oh but wait. Every breed advertises homo black except one. Guess which one? The one that was supposed to be black to begin with.
I honestly don't know which breed you are referring to.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:10 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
Silver wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:05 pm
kenny thomas wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:54 pm

Oh but wait. Every breed advertises homo black except one. Guess which one? The one that was supposed to be black to begin with.
I honestly don't know which breed you are referring to.
PM me and I’ll fill ya in.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:11 pm
by kenny thomas
Have you ever seen an advertisement for homo black Angus?

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:35 pm
by Silver
Angus cattle have always been black and red. And yes, I have seen many ads for homo black Angus. But up here it's the Canadian Angus Association. Not the Canadian Black Angus Association. Same association registers both colours. The breed has always had both colour variations.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:42 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
Silver wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:35 pm
Angus cattle have always been black and red. And yes, I have seen many ads for homo black Angus. But up here it's the Canadian Angus Association. Not the Canadian Black Angus Association. Same association registers both colours. The breed has always had both colour variations.
Yes but here it’s the American Angus Association and reds need not apply.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:54 pm
by Silver
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:42 pm
Silver wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:35 pm
Angus cattle have always been black and red. And yes, I have seen many ads for homo black Angus. But up here it's the Canadian Angus Association. Not the Canadian Black Angus Association. Same association registers both colours. The breed has always had both colour variations.
Yes but here it’s the American Angus Association and reds need not apply.
Yes, you folks do live in a sheltered little world of your own lol

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:23 pm
by kenny thomas
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:42 pm
Silver wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:35 pm
Angus cattle have always been black and red. And yes, I have seen many ads for homo black Angus. But up here it's the Canadian Angus Association. Not the Canadian Black Angus Association. Same association registers both colours. The breed has always had both colour variations.
Yes but here it’s the American Angus Association and reds need not apply.
But can't a bull registered with the American Angus Association have a red calf when bred to a red cow or a cow carrying a red gene. I will answer that, yes. So he would not be homo black.

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:25 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo

Re: MS, TN, AL red cattle results

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:26 pm
by TennesseeTuxedo
kenny thomas wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:23 pm
TennesseeTuxedo wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:42 pm
Silver wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:35 pm
Angus cattle have always been black and red. And yes, I have seen many ads for homo black Angus. But up here it's the Canadian Angus Association. Not the Canadian Black Angus Association. Same association registers both colours. The breed has always had both colour variations.
Yes but here it’s the American Angus Association and reds need not apply.
But can't a bull registered with the American Angus Association have a red calf when bred to a red cow or a cow carrying a red gene. I will answer that, yes. So he would not be homo black.
I’ve not seen a red calf out of a purebred black Angus bull.