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Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby mc486 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:27 pm

My name is Scott Harrison. In the late 1990s a government of Canada facility I worked at in Burlington, Ontario imported BSE bone meal illegally and transported it out west causing the Alberta BSE. This is no joke. If your contact me I will email you the first 23 pages documenting this and including the transport tags used on the container when the material was first brought illegaly from Ireland to Ontario, Canada. I have much more detailed information. They did this for reasons mentioned in the first two pages of the 23 page document I will send you. I have been trying for several years to contact the farmers of Alberta about this but I did not know how. I only found this forum today. Ridley requested and I sent copies of this information to them several years back. I think they might of used this information to get a better settlement as they seemed very excited by it at the time. I am dying from non-hodgkins lymphoma (terminal cancer) and would like to get this out of the way before I die. I will answer all questions to the best of my ability.

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby flounder » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:54 pm

THE USA AND CANADA BOTH RECIEVED TAINTED UK MBM I.E. GREAVES, LEGALLY TOO. and it seems the USA got about 44 tons (my files), and Canada got about 83 tons. ...TSS


UK EXPORTS OF MBM TO WORLD

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab05.pdf

OTHERS

BEEF AND VEAL

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab08.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab09.pdf

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab10.pdf

LIVE CATTLE

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab11.pdf

FATS

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab01.pdf

EMBRYOS

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab03.pdf

GELATIN ETC

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab02.pdf

SEMEN

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab04.pdf

MEAT

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11g/tab05.pdf

CANADA

http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/efsa_sci ... ex_en1.pdf

USA

http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/efsa_sci ... ex_en1.pdf

MEXICO

http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/efsa_sci ... ex_en1.pdf



Wednesday, April 16, 2008 MBM, greaves, meat offal, live cattle, imports from UK to USA vs Canada "Three of four possible manufacturers supplying a protein supplement likely fed to the animal could have included meat and bone meal (MBM) as an ingredient in its formulation. One of these manufacturers was able to confirm usage of meat and bone meal in supplements and confirm a source of MBM to be one common to previous BSE investigations."

USA AND CANADA IMPORTS OF UK CATTLE BETWEEN 1981 - 1989

USA = 496

CANADA = 198

*add 14 to 198 as last UK import to Canada, 14 in 1990

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/sci ... serise.pdf

HERE is another look at all the imports for both the USA and Canada of UK live cattle and greaves exports ;

UK Exports of Live Cattle by Value 1986-96

USA 697 LIVE CATTLE

CANADA 299 LIVE CATTLE

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11f/tab11.pdf

UK TABLE of Exports of meal of meat and meat offal; greaves 1979 - 1995

USA 24 TONS

CANADA 83 TONS

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m12/tab12.pdf

HOWEVER, my files show 44 tons of greaves for USA. ...TSS

Subject: Re: exports from the U.K. of it's MBM to U.S.??? From: S.J.Pearsall@esg.maff.gsi.gov.uk Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:03:16 +0000 To: flounder@wt.net (Receipt Notification Requested) (Non Receipt Notification Requested)

Terry

Meat and bonemeal is not specifically classified for overseas trade purposes. The nearest equivalent is listed as flours and meals of meat or offals (including tankage), unfit for human consumption; greaves. UK exports of this to the US are listed below:

Country Tonnes

1980 1981 12 1982 1983 1984 10 1985 2 1986 1987 1988 1989 20 1990

Data for exports between 1975 and 1979 are not readily available. These can be obtained (at a charge) from data retailers appointed by HM Customs and Excise: BTSL (Tel: 01372 463121) or Abacus (01245 252222). Best wishes Simon Pearsall Overseas trade statistics Stats (C&F)C

============ END...TSS...2008============

P04.27

Experimental BSE Infection of Non-human Primates: Efficacy of the Oral Route

Holznagel, E1; Yutzy, B1; Deslys, J-P2; Lasmézas, C2; Pocchiari, M3; Ingrosso, L3; Bierke, P4; Schulz-Schaeffer, W5; Motzkus, D6; Hunsmann, G6; Löwer, J1 1Paul-Ehrlich-Institut, Germany; 2Commissariat à l´Energie Atomique, France; 3Instituto Superiore di Sanità, Italy; 4Swedish Institute for Infectious Disease control, Sweden; 5Georg August University, Germany; 6German Primate Center, Germany

Background:

In 2001, a study was initiated in primates to assess the risk for humans to contract BSE through contaminated food. For this purpose, BSE brain was titrated in cynomolgus monkeys.

Aims:

The primary objective is the determination of the minimal infectious dose (MID50) for oral exposure to BSE in a simian model, and, by in doing this, to assess the risk for humans. Secondly, we aimed at examining the course of the disease to identify possible biomarkers.

Methods:

Groups with six monkeys each were orally dosed with lowering amounts of BSE brain: 16g, 5g, 0.5g, 0.05g, and 0.005g. In a second titration study, animals were intracerebrally (i.c.) dosed (50, 5, 0.5, 0.05, and 0.005 mg).

Results:

In an ongoing study, a considerable number of high-dosed macaques already developed simian vCJD upon oral or intracerebral exposure or are at the onset of the clinical phase. However, there are differences in the clinical course between orally and intracerebrally infected animals that may influence the detection of biomarkers.

Conclusions:

Simian vCJD can be easily triggered in cynomolgus monkeys on the oral route using less than 5 g BSE brain homogenate. The difference in the incubation period between 5 g oral and 5 mg i.c. is only 1 year (5 years versus 4 years). However, there are rapid progressors among orally dosed monkeys that develop simian vCJD as fast as intracerebrally inoculated animals.

The work referenced was performed in partial fulfilment of the study “BSE in primates“ supported by the EU (QLK1-2002-01096).

http://www.prion2007.com/pdf/Prion%20Bo ... tracts.pdf

look at the table and you'll see that as little as 1 mg (or 0.001 gm) caused 7% (1 of 14) of the cows to come down with BSE;

Risk of oral infection with bovine spongiform encephalopathy agent in primates

Corinne Ida Lasmézas, Emmanuel Comoy, Stephen Hawkins, Christian Herzog, Franck Mouthon, Timm Konold, Frédéric Auvré, Evelyne Correia, Nathalie Lescoutra-Etchegaray, Nicole Salès, Gerald Wells, Paul Brown, Jean-Philippe Deslys Summary The uncertain extent of human exposure to bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE)--which can lead to variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD)--is compounded by incomplete knowledge about the efficiency of oral infection and the magnitude of any bovine-to-human biological barrier to transmission. We therefore investigated oral transmission of BSE to non-human primates. We gave two macaques a 5 g oral dose of brain homogenate from a BSE-infected cow. One macaque developed vCJD-like neurological disease 60 months after exposure, whereas the other remained free of disease at 76 months. On the basis of these findings and data from other studies, we made a preliminary estimate of the food exposure risk for man, which provides additional assurance that existing public health measures can prevent transmission of BSE to man.

snip...

BSE bovine brain inoculum

100 g 10 g 5 g 1 g 100 mg 10 mg 1 mg 0·1 mg 0·01 mg

Primate (oral route)* 1/2 (50%)

Cattle (oral route)* 10/10 (100%) 7/9 (78%) 7/10 (70%) 3/15 (20%) 1/15 (7%) 1/15 (7%)

RIII mice (ic ip route)* 17/18 (94%) 15/17 (88%) 1/14 (7%)

PrPres biochemical detection

The comparison is made on the basis of calibration of the bovine inoculum used in our study with primates against a bovine brain inoculum with a similar PrPres concentration that was

inoculated into mice and cattle.8 *Data are number of animals positive/number of animals surviving at the time of clinical onset of disease in the first positive animal (%). The accuracy of

bioassays is generally judged to be about plus or minus 1 log. ic ip=intracerebral and intraperitoneal.

Table 1: Comparison of transmission rates in primates and cattle infected orally with similar BSE brain inocula

Published online January 27, 2005

http://www.thelancet.com/journal/journal.isa

It is clear that the designing scientists must

also have shared Mr Bradley’s surprise at the results because all the dose

levels right down to 1 gram triggered infection.

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s145d.pdf

6. It also appears to me that Mr Bradley’s answer (that it would take less than say 100 grams) was probably given with the benefit of hindsight; particularly if one considers that later in the same answer Mr Bradley expresses his surprise that it could take as little of 1 gram of brain to cause BSE by the oral route within the same species. This information did not become available until the "attack rate"

experiment had been completed in 1995/96. This was a titration experiment designed to ascertain the infective dose. A range of dosages was used to ensure that the actual result was within both a lower and an upper limit within the study and the designing scientists would not have expected all the dose levels to trigger infection. The dose ranges chosen by the most informed scientists at that time ranged from 1 gram to three times one hundred grams. It is clear that the designing scientists must have also shared Mr Bradley’s surprise at the results because all the dose levels right down to 1 gram triggered infection.

http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/ws/s147f.pdf



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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby mc486 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:25 pm

The material the people from the Canadian government facility illegally imported had come from cows that had been rendered in Ireland the mid 1990s. I would imagine all of the bone meal had high levels BSE in it by that time from the UK. The bone meal you are showing was from the 1980s when BSE had just begun. Even then in Canada there were severe restrictions on the importation of animal products from the UK at that time. These people who did this went around normal importation using air lugage as described in the 23 page document.

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby Bez+ » Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:47 pm

I think there is a strong chance you are blowing smoke

There are too many ways to take this public if it has any credibility - and if you had any yourself you would have done it long ago

At least 50 ways come to mind right now - smells too fishy to me.

As for flounder - he loves to put out so much info we could drown in it - making his credibility tough to take.

Put up or shut up - secrecy gets you no where on this board

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby mc486 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:28 pm

The letters/emails in the 23 page show that I was sending out this information years before BSE surfaced in Alberta. If you look at the first page of the 23 page document you would see that I sent a copy to Cam Daniels, Vice President, Canada Beef Export Federation in April 2005. As his boss the President of Canada Beef Export Federation was away in the States (Because of this BSE situation) there was knothing he could do. Large newpapers get their info off of news feeds like Reuters and the smaller newspapers like the ones I contacted in Provost and Winnipeg a number of years back said they did not have the resouces to cover such a story. Don't believe me contact the local newpaper in Provost, Alberta and ask them if I Scott Harrison did not contact them in 2005 about this story. They tell you they don't have the resources. Every one thinks that a person with a picture and a story can run to the papers and it will be on the front page the next day. Try it. It doesnt work that way. Theres aways liability or costs involved that make printing a story like this one very hard. I had an occupational disease called Weils disease from working at a water treatment plant in 1999 that caused severe systemic damages that to this day I have not been compensated for. 10 years without a salery combined with the above effects made it hard to get anything out. I have hard evidence of what I say. I live in Ontario were people dont even know what BSE is and for the most part they are to busy to do anything. I apologise for this.

Regards,

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby hillsdown » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:07 pm

Hi Scott,

Start a blog and publish all of your data on there , if it is believable then the readers will follow..

Let us know the link to the blog and we can go from there.

Sorry about your illness Scott and I do hope if you have valid data that we can get to the bottom of this as it is very interesting as to why Alberta has become the BSE "cluster" area especially for Holsteins.
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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby AngusLimoX » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:14 pm

mc486 wrote:I did in fact try to go public with this and the documents I have and have sent out show some of this. Large newpapers get their info off of news feeds like Reuters and the smaller newspapers like the ones I contacted in Provost and Winnipeg a number of years back said they did not have the resouces to cover such a story. Don't believe me contact the local newpaper in Provost, Alberta and ask them if I Scott Harrison did not contact them in 2005 about this story. They tell you they don't have the resources. Every one thinks that a person with a picture and a story can run to the papers and it will be on the front page the next day. Try it. It doesnt work that way. Theres aways liability or costs involved that make printing a story like this one very hard. I had an occupational disease called Weils disease from working at a water treatment plant in 1999 that caused severe systemic damages that to this day I have not been compensated for. 10 years without a salery combined with the above effects made it hard to get anything out. I have hard evidence of what I say. I live in Ontario were people dont even know what BSE is and for the most part they are to busy to do anything. I apologise for this.

Regards,

S. Harrison


Where in Ontario do you live? Thousands of beef farmers here know what BSE is and would love to chat with you. Face to face. ( Surgical masks recommended though in your case ).

Good luck with terminal cancer. Alberta sent that to Ontario in return for BSE.
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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby mc486 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:35 pm

I am presently transfering the information I have to a retired police officer who has begun to post the information on an Albertan Cattlemans site. He will review the information in a police investigative way. This I believe will be for the good of all. In addition an Albertan veternarian is also reviewing the information. I think you might have the wrong impression. At the time when these people imported this BSE bone meal I did not know what it was or why they did this. This is made clearer in the 23 page document. It was not until over a year later when I was told by a electrical contractor from this place I had formerly worked at what these people had done. I believed at the time that either nothing would happen or that if this BSE did surface in the West the few animals involved would have just been buried and no one would hear of it. To this day I do not understand why this did not occur. I tried to contact the Minister of the Enviroment at the time, but the only response from them was to do nothing. This was years before the BSE in Alberta surfaced. This is included in the 23 page document. I am not trying to defend my actions in so much as I know what these people did is a treasonable offence. People always say that here in Canada we do not have the death penalty. This is for murder. I have been told that for treason the army takes you out to the country and shoots you.
I sent a copy of this information to Steve Webster in 2006. Do you know who he is. He was the guy from Ontario who went alone to Parliment Hill to try and fight for the rights of Canadian Cattlemen in regards to BSE. He took the information I gave him and went on 94.5FM and presented it on a sunday night show. He told me that he had a great response and had to stay 3 hours after the show talking to people about this. The response was so great that he was asked to come back the following week and continue. When he did the station management told him that the government had been in touch with them and he would not be allowed to continue at the station with this story. I wonder why?

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby AngusLimoX » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:57 pm

I detect a tennesse twang

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby rockridgecattle » Thu Feb 12, 2009 10:53 pm

NOT A BUNCH OF HOGWASH.
there is actually a case with Ridley against the Canadian gov knowingly importing BSE contaminated bone meal and transporting it to Alberta.
there is a meeting in our area and in several other areas about this. Ridley has filed a claim, spent near 600 million or something to that effect, and the lawyers are not only going after for the farmer and financial loss but emotional as well. This meeting on the 26th in our area is to update us on what is happening. Looks like the gov' might settle out of court....but that could change.
There is a web site but in my tired state i forgot the name. I will get back to you on that next week

and i will post the findings of the meeting
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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby AngusLimoX » Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:24 pm

rockridgecattle wrote:NOT A BUNCH OF HOGWASH.
there is actually a case with Ridley against the Canadian gov knowingly importing BSE contaminated bone meal and transporting it to Alberta.
there is a meeting in our area and in several other areas about this. Ridley has filed a claim, spent near 600 million or something to that effect, and the lawyers are not only going after for the farmer and financial loss but emotional as well. This meeting on the 26th in our area is to update us on what is happening. Looks like the gov' might settle out of court....but that could change.
There is a web site but in my tired state i forgot the name. I will get back to you on that next week

and i will post the findings of the meeting


Can't wait to get the scoop.

"Ridley" has settled.

Govt has lost it's appeal to not have the case heard.

But you fill us in.

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Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby mc486 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:37 pm

The above file I mentioned is a condensed document of how and why a Government of Canada facility in Burlington, Ontario caused the Albertan BSE through an illegal importation of BSE/bone meal from Ireland in 1998. This was done purposely by the people there at this government of Canada facility. The first two pages explain why they did this, along with 20 or so pages that back it up. I have several hundred more pages that are much more revealing as to this situation. We are working with the heads of several beef boards in Alberta and their veterinary science people to bring this to light. Also a company called BSE Solutions Inc. in Alberta has a backup hard drive from 1998 from this Government of Canada facility from which I gave them and they are currently extracting information to help in this investigation.

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby mc486 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:29 am

I am continuing to bring the information I have forth about how and why a company working out of a Government of Canada facility in Burlington, Ontario (WTI) illegally brought BSE/bone meal from Ireland in 1998 to cause the Alberta BSE occurances. I am currently working with a Alberta company -BSE prion solutions Inc. out of Edmonton to bring all of the information forward. We have a lot of evidence from the time of this illegal importation(1998) in the form of actual documentation(100's of pages), WTI's backup hardrive from 1998, pictures, testomony, related events, the tag off of the bag with the BSE/bone meal in it as well as a small sample of this material. The reason for these WTI people to do this is listed in the 23 page report I mentioned at the begining of this post. Just email me for a copy.


More proof that this BSE/bone meal imported by WTI out of Burlington, Ontario from Ireland caused the Alberta BSE.


You might of seen this already:

http://www.aaaf.ab.ca/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=28


This link to the AAAF in Alberta also states that:

"the only risk factor for the spread of BSE is through feeding cattle meat and bone meal (MBM) derived from BSE-infected cattle. BSE prions are resistant to normal inactivation procedures, such as disinfectants and heat. BSE prions are not completely destroyed by the rendering process."

This to me says that BSE/bone meal from the UK (as is the bone meal imported to WTI in Burlington, Ontario from Ireland in 1998) is the only causative agent for BSE in cattle.

It is also stated that:

"Why don't we test all cattle for BSE?
OIE guidelines are based on science and recommend BSE surveillance be targeted to those groups of cattle most likely to test positive. It takes between two and eight years following exposure to BSE before cattle develop clinical disease. In the United Kingdom, of 180,000 cattle found to be positive for BSE, only 0.05% were 30 months of age or less and 0.006% were 24 months of age or less. Over 80% of cattle slaughtered in Alberta are less than 18 to 22 months of age and are, therefore, extremely unlikely to test positive."

This to me says that the time frame for the Alberta cattle to get BSE from Herb Campbell/Jim Woods illegal importation/exposure is correct. Also since thousands of cattle were tested and only 15 came up positive, how could this be? It is because the 20-30 Kg of BSE/bone meal brought by Herb Campbell to infect the Alberta herds can only cause a limited number of BSE/infected cattle events.

One thing I must mention. In 2005 I contacted Steve Webster as previously mentioned about this BSE situation. He as I mentioned had talked with a visiting Russian Veterinary Scientist about my documentation. The Russian Veterinary Scientist absolutely agreed that the type of exposure caused by Herb Campbell/Jim Wood and described in my documentation would cause this Alberta BSE.

Ontario lawyer Cammeron Pallette is representing Mr. Saurer and his claim against the Canadian Government for BSE damages to the Canadian Cattle Industry. Cammeron Pallette states in one of his online legal statements that as little as 1 mg of BSE/prion material would cause clinical BSE in a cow. If the 20-30 Kg of BSE/bone meal illegally imported by Herb Campbell from Ireland in 1998 had even a low part per million concentration of BSE/prions it would easily have caused all of the Alberta BSE/cattle events.

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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby flounder » Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:50 pm

mc486 wrote:I am continuing to bring the information I have forth about how and why a company working out of a Government of Canada facility in Burlington, Ontario (WTI) illegally brought BSE/bone meal from Ireland in 1998 to cause the Alberta BSE occurances. I am currently working with a Alberta company -BSE prion solutions Inc. out of Edmonton to bring all of the information forward. We have a lot of evidence from the time of this illegal importation(1998) in the form of actual documentation(100's of pages), WTI's backup hardrive from 1998, pictures, testomony, related events, the tag off of the bag with the BSE/bone meal in it as well as a small sample of this material. The reason for these WTI people to do this is listed in the 23 page report I mentioned at the begining of this post. Just email me for a copy.


More proof that this BSE/bone meal imported by WTI out of Burlington, Ontario from Ireland caused the Alberta BSE.


You might of seen this already:

http://www.aaaf.ab.ca/index.php?option= ... &Itemid=28


This link to the AAAF in Alberta also states that:

"the only risk factor for the spread of BSE is through feeding cattle meat and bone meal (MBM) derived from BSE-infected cattle. BSE prions are resistant to normal inactivation procedures, such as disinfectants and heat. BSE prions are not completely destroyed by the rendering process."

This to me says that BSE/bone meal from the UK (as is the bone meal imported to WTI in Burlington, Ontario from Ireland in 1998) is the only causative agent for BSE in cattle.

It is also stated that:

"Why don't we test all cattle for BSE?
OIE guidelines are based on science and recommend BSE surveillance be targeted to those groups of cattle most likely to test positive. It takes between two and eight years following exposure to BSE before cattle develop clinical disease. In the United Kingdom, of 180,000 cattle found to be positive for BSE, only 0.05% were 30 months of age or less and 0.006% were 24 months of age or less. Over 80% of cattle slaughtered in Alberta are less than 18 to 22 months of age and are, therefore, extremely unlikely to test positive."

This to me says that the time frame for the Alberta cattle to get BSE from Herb Campbell/Jim Woods illegal importation/exposure is correct. Also since thousands of cattle were tested and only 15 came up positive, how could this be? It is because the 20-30 Kg of BSE/bone meal brought by Herb Campbell to infect the Alberta herds can only cause a limited number of BSE/infected cattle events.

One thing I must mention. In 2005 I contacted Steve Webster as previously mentioned about this BSE situation. He as I mentioned had talked with a visiting Russian Veterinary Scientist about my documentation. The Russian Veterinary Scientist absolutely agreed that the type of exposure caused by Herb Campbell/Jim Wood and described in my documentation would cause this Alberta BSE.

Ontario lawyer Cammeron Pallette is representing Mr. Saurer and his claim against the Canadian Government for BSE damages to the Canadian Cattle Industry. Cammeron Pallette states in one of his online legal statements that as little as 1 mg of BSE/prion material would cause clinical BSE in a cow. If the 20-30 Kg of BSE/bone meal illegally imported by Herb Campbell from Ireland in 1998 had even a low part per million concentration of BSE/prions it would easily have caused all of the Alberta BSE/cattle events.

Regards,

S.R. Harrison




124. HMQ has admitted that the most likely original source of BSE in Canada was one or more of the 80 imported cattle that were rendered and entered the animal food chain.
The cow that was infected with BSE and rendered in 1996, whose MBM was included in Feed-Rite 18% Calf Starter w/ DCX, most likely contracted BSE from eating feed contaminated with MBM from one of these 80 cattle.


http://www.bseclassaction.ca/pdfs/ab/St ... aimALB.pdf




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Re: Alberta BSE caused by illegal Ontario Importation‏

Postby mc486 » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:40 pm

Some people say that you flounder tend to go on with to much. There wrong. Its important for everyone to see all sides of an argument. I know you are a great friend to all Cattle Ranchers everywhere. I've looked at the documentation you have mentioned. There claim centers around the Canadian government letting 80 cattle into Canada from the UK somewhere between 1986 and 1989 making them the culprit. The Canadian government has always denied this and there is no record of this in government records in a manifest/docket or other record which there would most certainly be if this were the case. In 1985 I worked at a refractory company in Hamilton, Ontario whose parent company out of Shefield, England sent a large lab furnace to us made out of steel, ceramic fibre with tugston carbide electrodes - "no cattle parts". It took months to get this furnace through Canada customs because of a new cattle disease they were afraid would get into Canada- Mad Cow Disease. If our furnace could not get into Canada because of Mad Cow Disease in late 1985 early 1986 how could 80 cattle just waltz in. As my boss Tony who was from Shefield would say "not bloody likely". So how would these 80 cattle of gotten in? Where is the testing to show that some of them had Mad Cow Disease? No evidence - no winning claim. A vetinary scientist from the USDA told me that all of the BSE/bone meal we are claiming caused the Aberta BSE from the UK would have high levels of BSE causing prions in it. This is because of the large amount of infected cows at that time and the homoginizing process used in the production of bone meal in the UK.

The above posted explaination for the Alberta BSE also contains too many 'might have caused this BSE' and 'maybe if this had occured's. This is what the Federal government here in Canada wants so they can easily dismiss this claim in 4 years. This is one of many problems I have with these "theories". The time frame for these events is far beyond the known average of a 5 year time to surface(about double). I have been told that if the above were true it would of caused at least hundred's of cases of BSE by the early 1990's and thousands of cases several years latter. You have to remember that something obviously did cause these 17 Alberta BSE cases. 20-30 kg of BSE contaminated bone meal illegally imported from the UK in the late 1990's as we have shown in the 23 document would do exactly this. If you did see everything we have you will know this:

I guess this is why an knowledgeable agro journalist from Winnipeg could say this to me after I sent him a copy of the 23 page document. "This BSE occurs only in the UK. Alberta is on the opposite end of the planet. Why did this not occur at points in between? It's more than obvious that someone brought BSE infected material(bone meal) here to Canada and purposely caused this Alberta BSE!"

In addition to this a french bio-technical company contacted me 2 years ago. A Quebec lawyer whom I had contacted forwarded a copy of the 23 page document to them. They said that they knew that the Alberta BSE was obviously the product of a single purposeful event/exposure most likely caused by the introduction of BSE infected bone meal to Alberta's herds. They said that if you plotted Alberta BSE events vs. time you would come up with half a normal distribution- exactly what you would expect from a single exposure/event. They went on to say that the people who have tried to say that there was 2 individually occurring situations here that caused the Alberta BSE were just trying to find a possible thought extremely unlikely way of explaining away this situation. They said why would these two BSE causing events only have occurred in Alberta and no where else? My engineer friend said it's like 'Occam's Razor' which states the simple explanation is always correct as follows:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor



Also, the office of the Minister of Agriculture has contacted me just lately:

I was just contacted by the office of Gerry Ritz, PC, MP (I guess the current Canadian Minister of Agriculture). They had an older copy of the 23 page document forwarded to them by someone(Ontario Ministry of the Attorney General?). I guess that since they picked up some of this BSE/bone meal in 1998 and people are beginning to become aware of this they are wondering about their liability for not really taking the time to properly investigate this BSE situation. I told them they can buy the book when it comes out. I really don't like taking to these government people but did mention to them that I intend to continue to work with yourself and your company BSE solutions Inc in Alberta to resolve this situation.

Mr. Arnold of BSE solutions Inc is very much on yourside. You should support him he is a good man:

Hi Scott, I wish to apologise for not getting back to you - I am visiting family and friends in England for a while and will return to Canada later in August. As soon as I do return, I will let you know that I am back. I have to thank you for your patience in this matter and believe me when say, I have all intentions to go forward with this and to work closely with you to let the world know what has happened in Canada regarding the BSE outbreak. Thanks again Scott.Ron.


Remember what we are doing will get the Alberta Farmers and our friends in the US who have sustained losses from this BSE situation compensation for the damages that these Ontario/former government of Canada bastards have caused you.
This can only help you.

Regards,

S.R. arrison

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